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A little while: Eckhart on four ways to see God

Sermon 41 (Evans numbering). On Modicum videbitis me et modicum non videbitis (John 16:17): 'A little, and ye shall see me, and a little, and ye shall not see me.'

In brief

Eckhart preaches on a line from John's gospel where Jesus tells his disciples that in a little while they will not see him, and in a little while they will see him again. The disciples are confused, so Eckhart takes the puzzling word 'little' and turns it over four ways: the small things in us that get in the way of seeing God, time and the created world itself, anything in the soul that is not like God, and the grace we still have to outgrow.

Each reading makes the same basic move. Something has to be seen as small, or fall away completely, before the soul can see God without anything standing between. By the end Eckhart pictures a vision with nothing between the soul and God at all, close to St Paul's line about knowing as we are known, where the soul sees God in the Son, who is the Father's own image.

In plain English

Sermon 41

"Modicum videbitis me et modicum non videbitis" (John 16:17). I quote in Latin from the Gospel of St John a saying of our Lord to his disciples. The translation runs, "A little while, and you will see me, and a little while, and you will not see me." The disciples did not understand. They said to each other, "We do not know what he means." So St John tells us, and he was there. A parable follows, which I will not go into. Then, knowing what was in their hearts, he says quite plainly, "I shall see you again and your joy shall be full."

Now, to my mind, this saying will bear four interpretations.

More or less the same in wording but very different in meaning. The core of the first idea, and of eternal happiness, is knowledge. One theologian who spoke at Paris insisted with loud outbursts that this is not so. Then another stood up, a better one than the best they have at Paris, and said: "Sir, you are very sure of yourself, but did not God declare in the gospel the very thing you denounce so strongly? Our Lord's words are, 'This is eternal life, to know you, the only true God.'" "A little while, and you will see me." This means that you must come to see everything in you as little and of small account if you are ever to see God. It follows that we must look closely at what helps and what hinders the knowledge of God. However small what comes from God, if we treat it rightly it comes back again, it returns, for we have one thing of God's own that we can work with, as with our own soul. Not that I work and God looks on: I, so to speak, work together with my own tool, which is mine and in me. So a person, being lifted up in time, shall see God outside himself. I have sometimes said that when St Paul saw nothing, he saw God. Now I say something better: when St Paul saw all as nothing, he saw God. When he saw all things as nothing he saw God, and what God means to say is this: when all things are reduced to nothing in you, then you shall see God.

Again he says, "a little while, and you will not see me." While time and the world, which is a little thing, are within you, you will not see me. The angel swore by his eternal life that when this life is over there will be no more time. And in his gospel St John plainly states, "the world was made by him and they did not know him." In keeping with this, to quote a pagan teacher, world and time are a small thing. It is out of world and time that we see God.

Thirdly, he said, "a little while, and you do not see me," as if to say: the smallest thing that is foreign to the soul will keep her from seeing God. For heaven is shut to strangers; even an angel from another heaven would not get in, since it is not his own. Why do my mouth and my ear have no sense of heaven? Because they are not like it. St Bernard says, "My eye is like the heavens in being round and clear and set high in the body, and it cannot bear the entry of anything foreign." Before my eye can see a painting on the wall, this must pass through the air and, in a still thinner form, be carried into my imagination, to be taken up by my understanding. The soul must have both these properties, and this likeness, however faint it may be, with its suggestion, its hint of sin, the soul rejects as foreign to herself. If God himself were foreign to the soul, she would want nothing of him. What the eye perceives has to be brought to it by means, in images. If there were no means, we would see nothing. If an angel sees another angel, or anything God has made, he does so by some means. But himself and God he sees directly. If my soul knows an angel, she knows him by some means and in an image, an image without image, not an image such as we have here. Soul and angel are material things compared with God. Angelic knowledge, like knowledge of anything created, is a means. God wholly lacks this: he is known without means, without anything little. For my soul to know God with nothing in between, you must be with me and I with you.

I will now offer a meaning quite different from these three. "While you are little you do not see me. To see me you must grow great." The intellect is great indeed, yet small compared with the light of God. Our Lord rebuked his apostles, saying, "There is still in you but a little light." They were not without light, but it was weak, the light of grace, the brightest thing God ever made or ever could make. And after all, the soul is small as long as she is still in grace. At some point the soul must rise above grace. If grace is not yet overcome, the soul still has to climb within grace and, being made complete, go beyond grace. Then she sees God.

Fourthly: "and you will not see me" means that, being poor in light and grace, you cannot see God. One must overflow with light and grace before one can see God. Grace is a light beyond all others, beyond the angels. In grace we can see God, but from a distance. While grace exists in us as grace we cannot see God. "You do not see me because I am going to my Father." While the soul is still on its way, God remains unseen. While we are moving toward God we have not yet gotten him. With the finding of God all progress ends, as our Lord said to St Mary Magdalene, "Do not touch me, I have not yet ascended in you to my Father." While God is rising in the soul and has not reached the highest point, we cannot see God. St Paul says, "God dwells in light that cannot be approached." And one saint says, "No one has ever seen God." St Paul tells us, "We shall know God as we are known." As God knows himself, so we shall know him; as he sees all things in himself, so we shall see all things in him. "We shall know as we are known," St Paul says. Once the little is cleared away, I shall see as I am seen, as he sees himself, without anything little, with nothing in between, all in himself and in him all things, nothing outside him, and we too shall know without anything little and without means. We shall know in his Son. The Son is the image of the Godhead, not the Godhead itself: he is the idea of God the Father. The Father's reflection is his only Son. In that idea where nothing exists, in that image we shall be reflected in the Son and, by the Son, reflected back into the Father. In that image, just the same, where there is no this nor that, we shall know God with God's only Son. May the little depart from us and let us know you, the one true God. So help us God. Amen.

Plain-English version by Gregory Lahn, from C. de B. Evans's translation of Franz Pfeiffer's edition (London, 1924), which is in the public domain.

Read the 1924 translation

A LITTLE AND YE SHALL NOT SEE ME

Modicum videbitis me et modicum non videbitis (Joh. 16:17.) I quote in Latin from the Gospel of St John a saying of our Lord to his disciples. The translation runs, 'A modicum, a little, ye shall see me and a modicum, a little, and ye shall not see me.' The disciples were ignorant and did not understand. They were saying to each other, 'We know not what he means.' So St John relates, and he was there. Follows a parable which I will not dwell on. Then, knowing what was in their hearts he says quite plainly, 'I shall see you again and your joy shall be full.'

Now, to my mind this saying will bear four interpretations.

More or less the same in wording but widely different in meaning. The kernel of the prime conception and of eternal happiness is knowledge. One theologist who spoke at Paris insisted with loud fulminations that this is not so. Then up and said another one, better than the best they have at Paris: 'Sir, you are very positive, but in the gospel did not God declare the very thing that you denounce so roundly?' Our Lord's words are, 'This is eternal life, to know thee the only true God.'

'A little and ye shall see me.' Meaning to say, ye must get to look upon everything in you as little and of small account if ye are ever to see God. It follows that we must observe minutely what will help and hinder divine knowledge. However small what comes from God, if treated rightly it recurs, it comes again, for we have one divine thing of our own that we can work with as with our own soul; not that I work and God looks on: I, as it were, co-operate with my own tool which is mine and in me. Thus man being lifted up in time shall see God out of himself. I have sometimes said, the time St Paul saw nothing he saw God. Now I say something better: when St Paul saw all nothing he saw God: when he saw all things as nothing he saw God, and what God means to say is this: when things are all reduced to naught in you then ye shall see God.

Again, he says, 'a little and ye shall not see me.' While time and world, which is little, is within you, ye shall not see me. The angel swore on his eternal life that when this life is done there shall be no more time. And in his gospel St John quite plainly states, 'the world was made by him and they knew him not.' In fine then, to quote a heathen doctor, world-and-time is a little thing. It is out of world-and-time that we see God.

Thirdly. He said, 'a little and ye see me not,' as though to say: the very smallest thing that is foreign to the soul will prevent her seeing God. For heaven is shut to strangers; even an angel from another heaven would not succeed in getting in, for it is not his. Why has my mouth, my ear, no sense of heaven? Because they are not like it. St Bernard says, 'My eye is like the heavens in being round and clear and placed high in the body, nor can it brook the entry of any foreign matter.' Before my eye can see the painting on the wall this must be filtered through the air and in a still more tenuous form be borne into my phantasy, to be assimilated by my understanding. These properties, both, the soul must needs possess; and this likeness, how subtile soever it may be, with its suggestiveness, its hint of sin, the soul rejects as foreign to herself. If God himself were foreign to the soul she would have none of him. What the eye perceives has to be conveyed to it by means, in images. If there were no means we should see nothing. If an angel sees another angel or anything that God has made, he does so by some means. But himself and God he sees immediately. If my soul knows an angel she knows him by some means and in an image, an image imageless, not in an image such as they are here. Soul and angel are material things compared with God. Angelic knowledge, anything created, is a means. Which God wholly lacks: he is known without means, without little. For my soul to know God with nothing between, thou must be with me and I with thee.

I will now suggest a meaning quite other than these three. 'While ye are little ye do not see me. To see me ye have to grow great.' Intellect is great indeed, yet small compared with the light of God. Our Lord upbraided his apostles saying, 'There is still in you but a little light.' They were not devoid of light, but it was weak, the light of grace, the brightest thing God ever made or ever could have made. And after all the soul is small so long as she is still in grace. Sometime or other the soul must rise in grace. If grace is not yet overcome, the soul has still to ascend in grace and, being perfected, to transcend grace: then she sees God.

Fourthly, 'and ye shall not see me': being poor in light and grace ye cannot see God. One must abound in light and grace before one can see God. Grace is a surpassing light, superangelic. In grace we can see God but from afar. While grace exists in us as grace we are not able to see God. 'Ye do not see me because I am going to my Father.' While the soul progresses God remains unseen. While we are on the way to God we have not gotten him. With finding God all progress ends, as our Lord said to St Mary Magdalene, 'Touch me not, I am not yet ascended in thee to my Father.' While God is ascending in the soul and has not reached the zenith, we are unable to see God. St Paul says, 'God dwells in light inaccessible.' And one saint declares, 'No man ever saw God.' St Paul tells us 'We shall know God as we are known.' As God knows himself so we shall know him; as he sees all things in himself so we shall see all things in him. 'We shall know as we are known,' St Paul says. The little being cleared away, I shall see as I am seen, as he sees himself, without little, with nothing between; all in himself and in him all things, nothing outside him; and we too shall know without little and without means. We shall know in his Son. The Son is the image of the Godhead, not the Godhead itself: he is the idea of God the Father. The Father's reflection is his only Son. In that idea where nothing exists, in that image we shall be reflected in the Son and by the Son reflected back into the Father: in that image, all the same, where there is no this nor that, we shall know God with God's only Son. May the little depart from us and allow us to know thee the one true God. So help us God. Amen.

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